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    Nissan GT-R R35 Mk.1 HKS GT570+ vs. Dodge Viper SRT10 Paxton Supercharged. Unlim 500+, 2009

    Vipers are really disappointing unless they are twin-turbo charged. The GTR proves it can still pull hard at the high end

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    fun!!!
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    Nice video. I honestly thought the viper would win

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    I don't like Vipers...this video made me happy
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    I expected the viper to lose.

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    Vipers are overrated

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    So much hate for Vipers, why? If you are judging it based on a straightline race with a GTR you don't get it.

    The Viper will put hair on your chest. The GTR will bore you to sleep.

    How a Viper can be overrated when the ACR kicked everything short of brand new million dollar supercars asses on the Nurburgring is beyond me. The Viper is a car that forces you to tame it. It makes you drive it. It's absolutely awesome and hardly disappointing.

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    I get what you're saying, but I'm just not a fan. I'll take a manual e46M3 for a fun car to "drive" over a viper. Or an older lambo/ferrari. I've never driven a R35GTR but from what I've read and heard from people that have is it pretty much drives itself. And that's fine, for some people the experience is in going fast and not feeling the car. I'm somewhere in the middle.
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    im so sick of people saying the gtr drives it self, especially you Sticky. Nissan did everything to make it go fast not feel better. When everyone tells you dct's are for girls you rant about how its faster witch your correct it is faster but so is the gtr. I personally respect what a dct does but I would not buy it because I would rather sacrifice the speed for the driving experience of an actual manual.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    im so sick of people saying the gtr drives it self, especially you Sticky. Nissan did everything to make it go fast not feel better. When everyone tells you dct's are for girls you rant about how its faster witch your correct it is faster but so is the gtr. I personally respect what a dct does but I would not buy it because I would rather sacrifice the speed for the driving experience of an actual manual.
    I never deny the GTR's performance and I always state the DCT will not provide as connected of an experience as the manual. That said, I respect the DCT performance advantage just as I respect the GTR's performance. Both are somewhat boring and robotic though.

    Some people put more importance on the driving experience. Some put more importance on performance. I feel with the M3 you get a better balance than you do in the GTR.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I never deny the GTR's performance and I always state the DCT will not provide as connected of an experience as the manual. That said, I respect the DCT performance advantage just as I respect the GTR's performance. Both are somewhat boring and robotic though.

    Some people put more importance on the driving experience. Some put more importance on performance. I feel with the M3 you get a better balance than you do in the GTR.
    this has to be the most reasonable level headed response i have ever seen you make! Well said and I agree with your points. my next weapon will be a 911tt and as i stated i will sacrifice the speed of the dct for the experience of a manual

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    if i was looking to break records there is no question it would be with an awe dct car

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    if i was looking to break records there is no question it would be with an awe dct car
    I respectfully disagree as all wheel drive may make hooking in many situations easier but it still robs power and rear wheel drive is still and always will be the king of high performance.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I respectfully disagree as all wheel drive may make hooking in many situations easier but it still robs power and rear wheel drive is still and always will be the king of high performance.
    i'll disagree with you on that unless you are talking about a full out drag car, but for anything resembling a street car awd cars are getting it done. the gtr has gone 7's in a street able trim, 13 of them has gone 8's, ugh gallardos have gone 8's as well. the Russian events are dominated by awd gallardos and gtr's, tx2k is as well. the KOT competitions have been won by awd cars as well. So what is rwd the king of other than drag cars with 24" slicks on the back??

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    i personally prefer rwd my self

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    i'll disagree with you on that unless you are talking about a full out drag car, but for anything resembling a street car awd cars are getting it done. the gtr has gone 7's in a street able trim, 13 of them has gone 8's, ugh gallardos have gone 8's as well. the Russian events are dominated by awd gallardos and gtr's, tx2k is as well. the KOT competitions have been won by awd cars as well. So what is rwd the king of other than drag cars with 24" slicks on the back??
    How are you going to drag race on the street with a rear wheel drive car? You need drag rubber. You do it on the track. Racing on the street is for kids.

    A lot of the big HP gallardos are rear wheel drive btw.

    Rear wheel drive is the king of the mile, roll racing, and top end. Also drag racing on an actual drag strip.
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    This is never going to lose:

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    Dodge viper is definitely a beautiful lookin car but don't ever see them win much.

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