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04-27-2011, 05:05 AM #1
Car and Driver compares the 2011 Jaguar XJL Supercharged, BMW F01 750LI, and Audi A8L. BMW in last place?
Being a performance oriented site, we will focus a bit on the performance numbers Car and Driver achieved. That said, we are a little bit surprised with this result. The Audi finishes in first place and the BMW 750 winds up in last. Even with its twin turbo V8 the BMW gets beat by all three competitors to 60 and barely edges out the Audi through the 1/4 for second. Being the heaviest obviously didn't help the 750 and it also put up the weakest showing around the skidpad.
The Audi does not even have its new turbo V8, relying on its very long in the tooth 4.2 liter V8. Yet it still shows favorably vs. the 750. How the Audi, being the longest car and saddled with all wheel drive, manages to be 250 pounds lighter than the 7 series we have no clue. To also get outhandled by both competitors? Car and Driver said it was the worst drivers car out of all three. A BMW? What is going on? Check out this quote:
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04-27-2011, 05:42 AM #2Senior Member
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Yes , F01 is so fat and should lose weight, it's steering is vague, the new electronic stuff suck but there is something really bugs me. in MT comparison 740i came in 1st, but the V8 version lost by 12 points? is the V8 that bad ?
My old man is a fan of old school BMW and drives a 3.0 CSi, 740i is the only car in the current BMW lineup that got OK from him
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04-27-2011, 05:44 AM #3
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04-27-2011, 05:45 AM #4Senior Member
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04-27-2011, 01:48 PM #5
Wow, that's the first C&D comparison I've seen where BMW doesn't come in first. However, that XJL is sexy, and 0-60 in 4.4 secs? DAMN that is fast!
I can't imagine if they decide to make an XJL-R
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04-27-2011, 02:01 PM #6Senior Member
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04-27-2011, 02:53 PM #7
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04-27-2011, 06:56 PM #8
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04-27-2011, 07:33 PM #9
Ah, should've caught that one. Either way, I need to sit in/drive one to really get a feel.
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All this is subjective, it's to each it's own, I personally think that the BMW is the top of all!!! Not being Biased but let's look at durability, enginuity and overall engineering! BMWs have been the benchmark of almost all or most companies out there! They have always something to prove against BMW. And the numbers as in power and torque etc... all it is.........that BMW is being conservative . what if they decided to really beef up their tune on the 7 series, and ave a different transmission? etc.... you know? Audi.......eeehhhhh, I had a few and not my cup of tea, Jaguar....never had one but driven a few and whatever, and BMW, had numerous and it is still and will always be the benchmark or the competition of other manufacturers!!! Look at ford!!! hahahahah they decided to put their mustang 5.0 against the M3, OK.... whatever, a you serious???? , but that was a stock 6 speed M3, not the DCT, amd 0.6 more liters etc.. etc... I'm not going to get into this subject, because when it comes to American made and European made, I have my preference!! And we all can contest what are the best built vehicles out there!!!
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04-27-2011, 09:52 PM #11
BMW has fallen a bit. They were the benchmark, now they are clinging to it. They have lost focus with all this i-brand and efficient junk. They should concentrate on what they know how to do, the ultimate driving machine.
What if they did? Jag didn't set around waiting, they built a much stronger, lighter, and more nimble car that actually pushes the design envelope further. BMW needs to add more power because the car is so freaking heavy. When is the last time an all wheel drive Audi was lighter than a BMW?
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