Tuned BMW F10 M5 annihilates a Mercedes-Benz W204 C63 AMG Black Series? Really?

[Sticky]

A lot of these videos featuring PP-P tuned care are one sided. It's fishy.

[63Master]

A lot of these videos featuring PP-P tuned care are one sided. It's fishy.

Well , they do tune very fast cars. They tend to be a bit more aggressive than other tuners. I have thier tune on two of my cars. They are really fast compared to other similar cars running with different tunes.

[Sticky]

Well , they do tune very fast cars. They tend to be a bit more aggressive than other tuners. I have thier tune on two of my cars. They are really fast compared to other similar cars running with different tunes.

I have no doubt Pelka can tune and tune well. But some of the videos as stated are just absurdly one sided from what are supposed to be tune only cars.

This is why timeslips rule.

[Group.america]

This isn't even a race folks, it's an epic beatdown. An F10 M5 with a Manhart Racing "Stage 4" package just absolutely crushes a W204 C63 Black Series from a roll. A tuned F13 M6 with this same package was shown recently beating down a tuned Audi RS6 as well. All the Stage 4 package from Manhart Racing consists of is an ECU tune, exhaust, downpipes with cats still in place, and Gruppe M carbon airboxes. So bolt ons turn the M5/M6 into a monster?

Yeah, the old man said only believe half of what you see and nothing you read... this looks too GOOD to be true

BTW a really pretty black F10 M5 passed me on the Garden State parkway today like I was standing still as I read my speedo at 85mph.... much better looking car in the flesh than on "paper"

[Group.america]

agreed..people act surprised when the car with almost 100 more hp wins...stock vs stock or tuned fbo vs tuned fbo, thats what I want to see

Yes... I want to see something like a 500 whp 335i versus a 500 whp E9x M3 both with MANUAL trans go at it

or a Weistec 700 hp E63 AMG vs an 700 hp AA S/C M3

[Sticky]

Yes... I want to see something like a 500 whp 335i versus a 500 whp E9x M3 both with MANUAL trans go at it

The M3 will always win a top end race provided equal HP. Shouldn't be a big difference but the longer the race the more the M3 will be favored with its curve with an SC.

[mjmarovi]

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Yeah, the old man said only believe half of what you see and nothing you read... this looks too GOOD to be true

BTW a really pretty black F10 M5 passed me on the Garden State parkway today like I was standing still as I read my speedo at 85mph.... much better looking car in the flesh than on "paper"

Yup, LOVE the new F-body M5 as far as appearance goes, not sure I like the new 4 series or M4 over the current e92 body though, car just looks too small for the lines.

[Group.america]

The M3 will always win a top end race provided equal HP. Shouldn't be a big difference but the longer the race the more the M3 will be favored with its curve with an SC.

Had an interesting discussion with my old man's best friend who worked at Opel/GM for 40 years... he has an 2012 BMW M3... says it is the BEST production engine he has driven...... says with the right S/C, tune etc it is a frighteningly quick car.... then again those 335i and 335is with FBO are good in a str8 line to 100 mph

[Sticky]

Had an interesting discussion with my old man's best friend who worked at Opel/GM for 40 years... he has an 2012 BMW M3... says it is the BEST production engine he has driven...... says with the right S/C, tune etc it is a frighteningly quick car.... then again those 335i and 335is with FBO are good in a str8 line to 100 mph

It's a good engine with a strong top end, no doubt.

[LostMarine]

Yes... I want to see something like a 500 whp 335i versus a 500 whp E9x M3 both with MANUAL trans go at it

or a Weistec 700 hp E63 AMG vs an 700 hp AA S/C M3

I can show you a 450hp 335is (dct) vs 500hp M3 dct.. the results are way to close for my comfort lol..

[LostMarine]

Had an interesting discussion with my old man's best friend who worked at Opel/GM for 40 years... he has an 2012 BMW M3... says it is the BEST production engine he has driven...... says with the right S/C, tune etc it is a frighteningly quick car.... then again those 335i and 335is with FBO are good in a str8 line to 100 mph

With the right combination its a freakishly fast car

[bighorns]

I get everything you guys are saying here, but for a DD on the street, no one is looking for a "fair race", which is exactly why my car is tuned. Catching someone in the wrong gear, wrong mode, and whupping their stock muscle car at a light, or on the freeway is very satisfying. The point is, most owners of these cars don't mod them, so these tunes cater to people who just want a little edge over cars that should be faster, stock for stock. There's nothing like being able to make a lane change over someone who accelerates trying to deny you.
These tuners are always going to exaggerate to promote sales, so it's always best to do your homework.
Not criticizing anything that has been previously posted. Just giving a non-racer, street drivers 2 cents!

[BigM62]

Gustav videos lost all credibility long time ago.

+1. He is a big tool/troll. Take your pick.

[DFM]

Gustav lost all credibility long time ago.

fixt

[bigscore]

Sooo....

The owner of the BS agreed to have his car humiliated on camera?

[Sticky]

Sooo....

The owner of the BS agreed to have his car humiliated on camera?

Stranger things have happened in his videos.

[lfelunden]

Have you seen the numbers from Manhart? 100-200 km/h 6.4 sec, you should forget about the trapping speed, this S63 engine above 150 km/h is a beast!

[Sticky]

Have you seen the numbers from Manhart? 100-200 km/h 6.4 sec, you should forget about the trapping speed, this S63 engine above 150 km/h is a beast!

Trap speed is above 150 km/h...

[infinkc]

nice

[phreek]

the m5 looks nice..