Camaro ZL1 vs Boss 302 LS

[Sledgehammer]

Interesting article and numbers considering the Camaro's obvious power advantage... Looking forward to a GT500 comparison for the 2013 model.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...2_laguna_seca/

[Sticky]

I can't believe the Camaro beats it by that much:

[Sledgehammer]

The HP advantage is clear IMO Sticky... The ZL1 has a near 140hp/175lb ft tq advantage power wise. So thats whats making it the lap times for the car, Randy Pobst is a talented driver and very consistent for sure. The Camaro sounds to be more stable under hard braking and rough surfaces with the IRS. The SRA in the Boss clearly not quite as good, the aftermarket could easily fix that for a few hundred bucks. I'm impressed with the times on both cars lap wise and very impressed with the acceleration numbers on the Boss vs the Zl1. The GT500 and its 650hp arrives in the summer. The match between those two should be interesting...

[ultimateendz]

the horse power wars have just begun between these two cars...ford needs to bring back the Ford GT with the 2013 GT500 motor in it and i bet it would mop the floor with the ZR1

[ultimateendz]

and prob also be 100k more too...lol....FML....I WANT ONE!!!!!!

[Sticky]

the horse power wars have just begun between these two cars...ford needs to bring back the Ford GT with the 2013 GT500 motor in it and i bet it would mop the floor with the ZR1

Let's see what the 2013 GT500 does.

[JonsC63AMG]

The ZL1 is a track monster. But I'm disappointed with its trap speed of 117.4 Considering it has 580hp and 4k lbs. Only 3mph faster then the Boss 302 LS!?

[Sticky]

The ZL1 is a track monster. But I'm disappointed with its trap speed of 117.4 Considering it has 580hp and 4k lbs. Only 3mph faster then the Boss 302 LS!?

About where it should be based on the CTS-V numbers. I agree, expect more out of it. The Boss is more impressive for what it has.

[JonsC63AMG]

About where it should be based on the CTS-V numbers. I agree, expect more out of it. The Boss is more impressive for what it has.

CTSV is about 300lbs more then ZL1 and less hp.

[Sticky]

CTSV is about 300lbs more then ZL1 and less hp.

They both don't have the same LSA?

[JonsC63AMG]

They both don't have the same LSA?

Yes.

[JonsC63AMG]

They both don't have the same LSA?

I meant they have same LSA.

[Sticky]

I meant they have same LSA.

But in different states of tune you are saying?

[JonsC63AMG]

But in different states of tune you are saying?

Yes.

[Sticky]

Yes.

Thanks. Seems it is rated at 580 horsepower so the 1/4 mile time is disappointing.

[JonsC63AMG]

Thanks. Seems it is rated at 580 horsepower so the 1/4 mile time is disappointing.

Think about it. A C63 with tune and LTs are about 570ish crank hp. But it traps 121+ on a bad day. Similar weight as a ZL1.

[Sticky]

Think about it. A C63 with tune and LTs are about 570ish crank hp. But it traps 121+ on a bad day. Similar weight as a ZL1.

A good point...

[ultimateendz]

They both don't have the same LSA?

yes but with lighter better flowing parts and a better tune

[Sticky]

yes but with lighter better flowing parts and a better tune

What are the lighter/better parts?

[ultimateendz]

What are the lighter/better parts?

from what i read on the caddy forums the sc is ported a little and the heads flow better

[ultimateendz]

plus alot more cooling stuff that SHOULD have come with the cts-v like better oil coolers, heat exchangers and diff cooler

[Sticky]

from what i read on the caddy forums the sc is ported a little and the heads flow better

Then why isn't it putting up much better numbers?

[ultimateendz]

Then why isn't it putting up much better numbers?

honestly we were just as surprised it didnt put up better numbers....it makes us think chevy purpose built the zl1 for just the track and not straightline speed....i guess we will see once it gets into other peoples hands....boggles my mind tho how the caddy can put up better numbers and the zl1 has more power AND launch control which we dont have

[Sticky]

boggles my mind tho how the caddy can put up better numbers and the zl1 has more power AND launch control which we dont have

I'm scratching my head now too.

[ultimateendz]

I just want the launch control code flashed onto my caddy and ill be a happy camper